We Do Recover With Jared Miller

EP 138 - 12 Things That Mess Up Recovery PT.1

Dive into Episode 138 of 'We Do Recover' with Jared Miller, where the sobriety journey takes a twist! This episode, titled '12 Stupid Things That Mess Up Recovery,' features host Jared and co-host Dr. Terry Sellers dissecting the pitfalls that can derail recovery, based on Allen Berger's insightful book. They spotlight three critical missteps: the belief that addiction to a single substance is the only issue, the dangers of selective honesty, and the trap of feeling unique. This insightful discussion highlights these critical errors and offers a roadmap for self-awareness and the right action. Whether you're in recovery or supporting someone who is or loves a deep dive into human psychology, this episode is a must-listen. Get ready to rethink recovery and learn why these 'stupid things' aren't just mistakes but valuable lessons on the road to lasting sobriety!

EP 137 - Cocaine Psychosis with Jared Johnson

Episode 137 of the podcast "We Do Recover with Jared Miller" features an eye-opening talk with Jared Johnson, a dad, husband, snowboarder, music artist, and case manager at Steps Recovery Centers. In this episode, titled "Cocaine Psychosis with Jared Johnson," the host and his guest, both named Jared, get into the details of Johnson's early struggles with drugs.

Johnson talks about how he managed to stop using drugs for five years in his late twenties, all on his own. But things took a turn for the worse when he got back with his band and started using cocaine again. He shares a scary experience where he thought his family was in danger while he was locked in a bathroom, a moment that was a big wake-up call for him.

The story then shifts to how Johnson got his life back on track. He talks about how getting help, going to treatment, doing twelve-step work, and turning back to his faith helped him clean up his life. Now, he's been drug-free for five years.

This episode is a real-life story of falling down and getting back up again. It's about the tough fight against addiction and how it's possible to come out stronger. Tune into "We Do Recover with Jared Miller" Episode 137 to hear Jared Johnson's moving story of recovery and hope.

EP 136 - Dirty Details of Drug Testing with Anthony Povenza

In this riveting episode of We Do Recover with Jared Miller, episode 136 takes a deep dive into the intricate world of drug testing, featuring guest Anthony Provenza, a former laboratory scientist and current regional director for Precision Diagnostics. Provenza, alongside host Dr. Terry Sellers and counselor Jared Miller, unravels the complex details of urinalysis testing, a pivotal tool in the modern era of substance abuse treatment.

The episode begins with a candid discussion about the murky past of drug screening, highlighting the "bad players" of over a decade ago who exploited drug testing for financial gain. Host Jared Miller articulates how these practices cast a shadow over the substance abuse treatment industry, metaphorically giving it a "black eye."

As the conversation progresses, the trio delves into the technical nuances of drug testing methods. They compare the simpler point-of-cup or screening tests with the more advanced spectrometer lab-processed confirmation testing. With the advent of cutting-edge technology, they explain how providers can now obtain detailed reports of a patient's substance consumption, measured precisely down to nanograms per milliliter.

The episode reaches its climax in the final twenty-five minutes, as the discussion pivots to the critical role of urinalysis in maintaining responsibility and accountability in treatment providers and pain clinic prescribers. The hosts and guest emphasize the importance of distinguishing between appropriate substance use and inappropriate substance abuse in patient care.

This episode not only sheds light on the technicalities of drug testing but also underscores its significance in the realm of substance abuse treatment. It's a must-listen for anyone interested in the interplay of science, ethics, and healthcare in addressing addiction and recovery. Listen to episode 136 of We Do Recover with Jared Miller for an enlightening journey into the "Dirty Details of Drug Testing."

EP 135 - An Alternative Approach with Bryce Conaster

Dive into a compelling session of "We Do Recover with Jared Miller," where Episode 135 features the unconventional recovery journey of Bryce Conatser, a musical artist with a history of addiction. Bryce shares his current experience using medical marijuana to combat his methamphetamine and heroin dependencies while living in a sober house – a controversial method that's not often shared in recovery narratives.

In episode 135, Jared invites listeners to approach Bryce's story with an open mind, exploring the potential of alternative paths to sobriety. This episode is a candid discussion about the complexities of addiction and the personalized nature of healing.

Tune in to hear a raw, enlightening conversation that aims to broaden perspectives on recovery and the unique ways individuals seek their personal peace and rhythm in life. 

EP 134 - Desperation of a Dying Man by Robert ’Cord’ Beatty

Episode 134 of "We Do Recover with Jared Miller" is here, and it's not your typical Halloween tale! 🎙️ Jared Miller, our charismatic counselor and host, kicks off the episode with a nod to the upcoming "All Hollows Eve," setting a fun and festive tone. 🎃

But hold onto your pumpkin spice lattes, because we quickly dive into a captivating conversation with Robert Cord Beatty - an author, speaker, and entrepreneur with a story that will leave you on the edge of your seat. 📚

Cord opens up about his journey of recovery and how he channels his energy into helping others through his business, Zions Healing Centers. But that's not all - he's also here to discuss his latest literary masterpiece, "Desperation Of A Dying Man: A Journey of Redemption and Healing." 🛤️

This isn't just any book - it's a raw and powerful exploration of Step 1 of the 12-Step Program, focusing on the crucial concepts of admittance, acceptance, and surrender. Cord uses his own life as a canvas, painting a vivid picture of transformation and hope. 🎨

Jared and Cord dive deep, discussing how the book serves as an educational tool, using real-life examples to illustrate its principles and guide readers on their own paths to recovery. 🗣️

So, if you're ready for a Halloween episode that's more treat than trick, tune in to "We Do Recover with Jared Miller." It's a journey of heart, healing, and a little Halloween fun! 🎉

EP 133 -From Frankenstein to Brain Spotting with Dawn McComb

Ever thought Frankenstein-style surgeries might be the future of therapy? Jared Miller did! Kicking off the spooktacular episode with some Halloween jests, Jared and his co-host, Dr. Terry Sellers, joshed about the wild side of therapies. But fear not! Dawn McComb, a seasoned therapist, is here to bring clarity out of the chaos. 

Enter: Brain Spotting therapy. 🧠✨

Not to be mistaken for a mad scientist experiment, this innovative approach treats trauma from the brain's bottom-up – a flip from the traditional top-down method of talk therapy. Dawn admits she raised an eyebrow at it initially. Yet, after diving into the training and seeing its transformative power with her clients, she's now a staunch advocate. 

Join the trio as they debunk myths, share insights, and shed light on the magic of brain-spotting therapy. Warning: This episode might just rewire the way you see mental health treatment! 🎃👩‍🔬🎙️

EP 132 - We Do Hard Things with Matt Blanchard

In this moving episode, counselor Jared Miller sits down with the indomitable Matt Blanchard. Matt's journey is one of heartache, resilience, and redemption. From the life-altering accident that left him paralyzed from the waist down to the darkest corners of his mind contemplating the permanence of his paralysis and battling suicidal thoughts, Matt's narrative takes listeners on an emotional roller coaster.

One of the most harrowing aspects of Matt's story is his descent into opiate addiction. Initially seeking refuge from the physical and emotional torment, he became ensnared by the tight grip of Oxycontin. It wasn't until his daughter's painful realization and intervention that Matt recognized the slow poison of opioids coursing through him.

But Matt's story isn't just one of adversity; it's also one of hope and rebirth. His poignant account of the struggle to put on socks for the first time post-accident is symbolic of the broader challenges many face. It's a powerful reminder that everyone, at some point, needs help "putting their socks on."

Matt Blanchard epitomizes the human spirit's ability to overcome seemingly insurmountable odds. His message? With enough willingness, paths to recovery will unfold before you. This episode is not just a testimony to Matt's resilience but a beacon of hope for all those facing their darkest hours. We hope you enjoy this episode! Please share it with family & friends, someone in the world right now needs to hear it.

EP 131 - USARA Influencing Legislation

In this compelling episode, our hosts Counselor Jared Miller and Doctor Terry Sellers, dive deep into the world of substance use disorder, non-profit work, and the intricacies of influencing legislation. They are joined by the passionate Evan Done, who offers insights from his unique journey in the field.

Evan begins by sharing the touching moments and driving forces that led him to venture into the realm of substance use disorder and the non-profit sector. His story paints a vivid picture of the challenges and rewards inherent in this line of work, giving listeners a glimpse of the person behind the advocate.

The conversation turns to the legislative efforts spearheaded by USARA - the non-profit organization Evan is affiliated with. The trio delves into the organization's significant role in shaping policies in the state of Utah, ensuring that the voices of those in recovery are not only heard but also represented. The trio reflects on past episodes tied to this topic, specifically, "Magic Mushroom Bill," discussed in episode 113, and the "Utah Fentanyl News" from episode 116. Evan explains USARA's position on these proposed bills and sheds light on the non-profit's unwavering commitment to the recovery community.

This episode is not just for those interested in the connection between legislation and substance use disorder but for anyone keen to understand the profound impact of non-profit organizations in the advocacy landscape.  We hope you enjoy this episode! 

EP 130 - What To Expect When Starting Treatment Services with Kristy Angus

If you're looking for a podcast episode that mixes good vibes, laughs, and super useful info about getting help for drug or alcohol problems, you've got to check out Episode 130 of "We Do Recover with Jared Miller."

Jared's guest, intake coordinator Kristy Angus from Steps Recovery Centers, proves to be an amazing guest. Her in-depth understanding of the subject provides listeners with a comprehensive view into the world of substance abuse treatment. Their conversation on the upcoming Recovery Days by USARA across Utah is not only informative but also well-structured, making it easy for listeners to jot down essential details about the events.

What sets this episode apart, however, is the latter half, where Jared and Kristy tackle the myths and misconceptions about starting treatment services. They do an admirable job of breaking down the barriers and dispelling fears that many individuals or their families might have. The discussion about the four different levels of care, as well as the goals for each, is invaluable.

The brilliance of this episode doesn’t solely lie in its informative nature. The way Jared and Kristy weave humor throughout keeps listeners engaged. Their camaraderie is evident, making this episode feel more like a conversation between friends rather than a clinical discussion.

For anyone who is considering services or has a loved one battling substance use disorder, this episode is a must-listen. It is packed with genuine insights, practical information, and a dose of laughter, making it both a resourceful guide and a comforting companion. Please share this with someone you know who could benefit from its content. 

EP 129 - Language Matters with Tiffany Naccarato & Kayla Jensen

In the 129th episode of "We Do Recover with Jared Miller," the hosts dig into an often overlooked yet incredibly powerful tool – our language. Tiffany Naccarato & Kayla Jensen with the non-profit organization Utah Support Advocates for Recovery Awareness (USARA), join the hosts to discuss "Language Matters." After warming up with 10 minutes of pleasantries, introductions, and ensuring their guests feel right at home, the four dive headfirst into the deep end.

Why does identifying as "an addict" hit differently than "a person in recovery"? Well, Tiffany & Kayla chime in with explanations & examples to that question, reminding listeners that words can comfort or they can condemn. Both guests, Tiffany & Kayla, illuminate the power of our words and why choosing them wisely is pivotal when addressing a human being presenting with a substance use disorder. They share personal insights, urging everyone to ditch potentially demeaning labels and adopt a more compassionate vocabulary.

Do our words really shape reality? Can altering our vocabulary truly change societal perception? This episode isn’t just about talking the talk; it’s about walking the walk toward a world free from the stigma around substance use disorders.

In a world where everyone's a critic, here's a revelation: the words we choose to use can actually make a difference. We hope you enjoy this episode!

EP 128 - When Your Loved One Dies

In a deeply moving episode of "We Do Recover," Counselor Jared Miller is joined by co-host Dr. Terry Sellers. They dive into an immensely personal and heart-wrenching topic as Dr. Sellers shares the tragic loss of his daughter, Crystal Sellers, to the insidious disease of addiction.

No one is immune to the pain that addiction can inflict, not even a board-certified doctor specializing in addiction medicine, as Dr. Sellers poignantly reminds listeners. Through his raw and candid narration, he speaks on the stark realities of losing a loved one, especially when it's an outcome of an overdose. It serves as a reminder of the indiscriminate nature of addiction.

But it's not just a story of heartbreak and loss. Dr. Sellers demonstrates immense courage in sharing his coping skills. By openly discussing his grief, maintaining his daily routines, and leaning on the support of those around him, he offers valuable insights for those navigating the tumultuous waters of bereavement. His vulnerability in the face of immense pain showcases the importance of community, dialogue, and healing in the recovery journey.

For listeners, this episode is a beacon of hope and understanding. It sheds light on the imperative steps to be taken during the grieving process. Whether you've personally faced such a tragedy or are supporting someone who has, the lessons imparted by Dr. Sellers are indispensable.

Join Counselor Jared and Dr. Sellers in this somber, intelligent, and professional episode as they unpack the realities of grief, healing, and the unshakable human spirit in the face of profound loss.

EP 127 - Trauma Work with Madison McAllister

In this deeply insightful episode, host counselor Jared Miller and host Dr. Terry Sellers welcome Madison McAllister, a seasoned expert in the field of trauma work. With 20 years of experience, Madison delves into the complexities of Internal Family Systems (IFS) as they relate to various types of trauma, including physical abuse, sexual abuse, and childhood trauma. The discussion unveils the intricate connections between trauma and substance abuse, providing profound insights for professionals and those affected by these experiences. The episode frequently references the influential book "No Bad Parts" by author Robert Schwartz, drawing on its principles to further explore and understand the healing process. Whether you're a mental health professional or someone seeking to understand the profound effects of trauma, this episode offers valuable perspectives and strategies for healing and recovery. We hope this episode captures the curiosity of our listeners & reaches individuals who could benefit from healing through IFS. 

EP 126 - Relapse Warning Signs

In this thought-provoking episode, hosts Dr. Terry Sellers & Counselor Jared Miller break down the widely-known acronym H.A.L.T. to help listeners identify potential signs of relapse & even add a twist of their own. The discussion revolves around how emotional states like being Hungry, Angry, Lonely, Tired—and now, even Horny—can escalate into relapse triggers if not addressed promptly.

Miller kickstarts the conversation by discussing how Hunger can be tied to emotional distress & potentially signal a relapse. Sellers concurs, adding insights from his years of experience treating patients. The dialogue then transitions into how Anger, particularly when coupled with feelings of resentment, can provoke a rebellious response in individuals dealing with chemical addictions, often leading to a relapse.

As the conversation unfolds, the hosts shed light on the L—Loneliness. Miller articulates the idea that even in a room full of people, someone can feel deeply isolated, creating a social disconnection that can amplify the risk of a relapse. They also emphasize the importance of acknowledging similarities with others rather than focusing on differences to mitigate these feelings of loneliness.

Turning to T—Tired, Sellers notes how lack of optimal sleep can negatively impact brain function & lead to irritability, a potential relapse warning sign. The importance of prioritizing sleep hygiene is underscored, highlighting the crucial role it plays in overall well-being & recovery journey.

In an unexpected twist, the hosts introduce an additional H—Horny. Despite the taboo nature of the topic, Miller explains how the lack of dopamine release due to decreased sexual activity could be a relapse warning sign. In fact, all components of H.A.L.T., including hunger, anger, loneliness, & tiredness, can be tied back to a deficiency in dopamine, our brain's pleasure-seeking neurotransmitter.

Both Miller & Sellers conclude by emphasizing the necessity of seeking natural, healthy ways to stimulate dopamine release. This proactive approach is key to reducing the risk of relapse & ensuring a successful & sustainable recovery journey. The engaging episode is packed with expert insights and practical tips, making it a must-listen for anyone navigating the complex waters of addiction recovery.

We hope you enjoy this episode! Please help us raise awareness by sharing it with family, friends, co-workers, & community members in recovery from addiction. 

EP 125 - The Transformation with Pascual Lozano

Guest Pascual Lozano (known as Paco) joins counselor & host Jared Miller to share his recovery story. Paco has had quite the journey, starting his life in California, where he first encountered mind-altering substances as a means to cope with childhood traumas. At just ten years old, he discovered the alluring escape of a stolen cigarette from his father, a path that led him to experiment with more potent substances over time. By the age of 21, Paco found himself in the firm grip of methamphetamine addiction.

Seeking a fresh start, Paco set off to join his brother in Ogden, Utah, but a twist of fate stranded him in St George, Utah, instead. It was there he landed a job as a maintenance man at Motel 6. Paco's old habits, however, followed him to Utah, and he soon found himself facing multiple charges of drug possession and the prospect of a 10-year prison sentence.

Choosing to take control of his life, Paco entered drug court and successfully completed the program. He credits the Southern Utah recovery community for being instrumental in helping him transform his life. Today, Paco is a beacon of hope and recovery. With multiple years of recovery under his belt, he is happily married to his wife, Kristy, and is a respected member of the Southern Utah community.

In this episode, we discuss the difference between social, experimental, or recreational substance use versus physical dependency, otherwise known as addiction. Paco's story serves as a potent testament that change is indeed possible, inspiring those who are grappling with their own battles and assuring them that it's never too late to take a stand for a healthier, more fulfilling life. Tune in for an in-depth exploration of Paco's journey from addiction to recovery. We hope you enjoy this episode! 

EP 124 - Never Give Up with Matthew Traver

Guest Matthew Traver joins counselor & host Jared Miller to share his recovery story. Matt describes a typical childhood, growing up in Wisconsin. He had no idea that playing with older friends in his neighborhood would lead to being sexually assaulted. Matt also shares a traumatic experience of witnessing domestic violence against his mother at the hands of her boyfriend. Matt reflects on how these events led him to isolate himself, leading to symptoms of depression which he looked to escape by abusing various chemicals. In typical progressive fashion, Matt’s polysubstance use disorders placed him on a path to the wrong side of the criminal justice system. Today Matt reflects on those events saving his life! Through drug court supervision & outpatient SUD treatment services, Matt was able to rebuild his life. On the 4th of July, 2023, he celebrates four years clean! Matthew Traver has become a lighthouse for others seeking a new way to live. He started the 501-c3 non-profit organization Never Give Up. The organization's vision is to create transitional housing for individuals being released from jails/prisons to provide a path for lasting change. We hope you enjoy this episode! 

EP 123 - Students Carrying Narcan

Dr. Terry Sellers & counselor Jared Miller discussed an article titled “Should Students Carry Naloxone? American Medical Association (AMA) Members Debate Policy Stance” from medpagetoday.com. The big question debated among AMA members was whether students should be allowed to carry Narcan in public schools. Doctor Sellers leads into this topic by sharing the startling statistics of deaths caused by overdose specific to adolescents. Between 2021 and 2022, 1,871 overdose deaths in the age group 14-18-year-olds, 1,090 of those deaths occurred in the adolescent houses, resulting in 781 of those overdose deaths occurring in a public setting. The hosts break down this article, sharing their reactions, thoughts & personal opinions on the AMA members' stance. This episode is full of education & information, we hope you enjoy it! 

EP 122 - A Conversation with Colicchie and Joe Nester

In episode 122, host Jared Miller CASUDC interviews music artists Colicchie and Joe Nester regarding their upcoming concerts in Utah. The trio listens to teasers of a few of the songs that will be performed at “Talent in the Park” (in Ogden, UT June 3rd) as well as “A Recovery Concert” (in Saint George, UT June 4th). They discuss the details behind the music, and Colicchie & Joe Nester share thoughts about what they respect in each other’s art/songs. Give this episode a listen to get to know Colicchie and Joe Nester more personally. We hope you enjoy this episode!

EP 121 - Shannon J Scholarship with Shantell Van Leuven

Shantell Van Leuven the founder & president of the Shannon J Scholarship (SJS) Foundation joins host Jared Miller to share the back story behind SJS. Shantell starts by discussing the Foundation's biggest fundraising event on June 3rd, "Talent In The Park". Jared shares stories of his experience as the event's Emcee the previous year (2022). Shantell shares with listeners about the sudden & devastating loss of her brother Shannon who struggled with substance abuse & depression for a number of years. She shares the last conversation with her brother by reading their exchanged text messages, Shantell made her brother a promise to get him help if he is willing. Unfortunately, he passed away from an automobile accident before he was able to receive that help. Today the Shannon J Scholarship Foundation (which is a 501-c3 nonprofit) raises money to assist individuals who are willing but need some financial assistance with getting into a substance abuse treatment facility. Shantell finishes this episode by reflecting on how healing it is for her to be able to carry on her brother's memory & fulfilling the promise she made to him over three thousand times within their community. We hope you enjoy this episode! 

EP 120 - Recovery Endurance with Judy Berrocal

Counselor Judy Berrocal (LSUDC) joins doctor Terry Sellers (MD) & counselor Jared Miller (CASUDC) to share her story of recovery. Judy briefly speaks on childhood traumas she endured, which she sought to escape through substance abuse. She shares a very personal, heartbreaking accident while camping with her husband & two children resulting in the death of her two-year-old son. She shares that the shame that came from that accident fueled her methamphetamine addiction. Eventually, Judy attended Foothill Treatment Center in Spanish Fork, Utah. This is where she got connected with previous guest Blu Robinson (Coach Blu, episode 3) the founder of Addict II Athlete. She shares her first healing experience with that fellowship running a 5K with her son's name written across her arm. Today, Judy Berrocal stays involved in recreational recovery activities. She is the chairman of the Aaron Navarro Memorial Tournament (recovery softball). She also works as a licensed substance use disorder counselor in Southern Utah. In addition to being in recovery from addiction, she has recently battled cancer & as of this podcast, is in remission. This is a powerful episode that highlights Judy's physical, emotional, social, & spiritual recovery endurance, we hope you enjoy it! 

EP 119 - Waking Up with Mark Vaughn

Mark Vaughn joins hosts Doctor Terry Sellers & Counselor Jared Miller to share his journey of recovery. Mark starts off by sharing that he was born & raised in Ogden, Utah. He reflects back to age ten when his recreational use of Marijuana led to his first inpatient treatment facility by age fifteen. He shares how he went through periods of abstinence for the next twenty years where he would build his life up & then tear it down from polysubstance abuse (cross-addiction/various types of substances). Mark brings an incredible message that recovery & abstinence are two separate things. He shares his experience that attending fellowship meetings wasn't enough for him. He realizes today that working on some form of self-improvement program (e.g. 12 Steps, Smart recovery, CoDA, Therapy) is the difference between recovery vs. abstinence. Mark is an incredible example of an individual who has taken accountability in his life & allowed that process to transform him. We hope you enjoy this episode!